• http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

    LOL and you have provided consulting services to StockTwits…too funny, is there ANYONE in IR who isn’t conflicted? Tell us Dominic, how much $ have you made by “consulting with Stocktwits”…my god, penny stock promoters are going institutional now!

    • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

      Tim,

      I thought you were smarter than that. I have never promoted a stock ever. Frankly, the fact that people pay you money to identify penny stock promoters’ stocks to short is alarming because obviously you know nothing.

      • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

        No you moron, I’m comparing your conflicted article to that of penny stock promoters who also write glowing reviews of companies theyre paid to work with…how much have you been paid to consult with StockTwits…answer the question please

        • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

          None of your business.

          • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

            Ah but you see that is where you’re wrong, when you write a fluff piece about a company you work with, the public DESERVES to know your compensation, no different than a penny stock promoter who does the exact same conflicted thing…so tell us all Dominic

          • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

            I’m sorry you have a grudge against StockTwits that you want to take out on me, but read the post. It’s strictly factual. Find one factual error and I’ll correct it. Go on, try. 

            And it’s irrelevant what I was paid. All you need to know is that I’m conflicted so any opinions must be judged on that basis. Thing is, it’s almost all fact.

            I’m totally comfortable that I’ve gone above and beyond good practice. If you don’t trust me, go away. You’re not my audience anyway.

          • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

            I have no grudge against anyone and penny stock promoters say their stuff is 100% factual too…the point my conflicted friend is that you have some kind of business relationship with the subject about which you’re writing…the SEC makes penny stock promoters disclose their compensation, not sure why u think you’re above the law, you’re the same exact conflicted IR trash

          • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

            So you’re suing StockTwits because you like them. Funny you left that fact out.

            StockTwits is a private company and I hold no securities in the firm. You really are clueless.

          • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

            my lawsuit is regarding a different product and the lawsuit speaks for itself, my conversation with you is regarding your disclaimer, which is very penny-stock-like and as you know my specialty.

            so please stop avoiding the question, how much have you been paid, please follow SEC rules

  • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    You really are clueless, and hopefully those poor subscribers of yours will see this. I am a consultant. I get paid to provide advice and information about online IR best practices. That’s what I did for StockTwits for payment. I do not have a stock, options or any other securities in the firm. Whether StockTwits thrives of dies is of no consequence to me. I wrote about the company’s deal with Reuters because it is a newsworthy and relevant to IR. I got the information from a tweet. No one at StockTwits provided any information to me for this story. I obtained the information from public sources, and used my own knowledge to place it in context. I disclosed that I have in the past provided paid consulting services to StockTwits. What I charged them is not your business or anyone else’s because they don’t pay me to write about them, nor does anyone else.

    • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

      “poor subscribers” of mine know I take NO prisoners when it comes to conflicted IR people and thats why my performance is superior…you are all the same and you should be treated harshly for you are masters of spin and propaganda…I don’t care if StockTwits is a stock or not, it is SEC rules that when you write about a company, you disclose your position, long, short or conflicted due to a business arrangement. Perhaps it doesn’t apply to private companies…yet, but rest assured in the future, they won’t tolerate such BS. You sir are 100% conflicted but refuse to disclose just how conflicted and that’s sad…it ruins your credibility….and yes it is EVERYONE’S business to know what you’ve been paid in the past, present and future when you write about a company…get ready for the upcoming world of transparency, adapt or perish.

      • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

        The only thing that’s transparent (as in clear) is that you have a grudge against StockTwits and lack the maturity to disclose that upfront before attacking the integrity of someone who actually is trying to do the right thing.

        Sorry, Tim, I once respected you, but now I know you’re a loose cannon and a liability to investors.

        • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

          Yet again you change the subject…I don’t care what company you write about, I’m gonna be following your every article given that I see you don’t want to disclose your conflicts…and no I don’t want your respect, the respect of an IR person is meaningless, I just want to know 2 things now a.) how am I a loose cannon/”liability to investors” (I’m a trader, last time I talked to an investor was…never) when all I’m doing is trying to make you more transparent (it’s a good thing I swear) and b.) what is your specific compensation

          You have really opened my eyes Dominic thank you…expect me to hound you to be more transparent, every day until you give in :)

        • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

          And yes I do lack maturity, if I pretended to be mature, I would be lying to you and I’m not an IR person who spins anything, what you see is what you get, you should try it, it’d be interesting to see who the real Dominic is when you take away his conflicted compensation

  • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    A loose canon because you shoot from the hip without the facts. A liability because you sell advice supposedly based on research, but it’s clear to me that you 1) you don’t do your research and 2) are ruled by emotions and grudges rather than facts. You’re welcome to follow my every move, but tell your subscribers that you’re doing it so that they all know what a waste of time it was.

    • http://www.timothysykes.com Anonymous

      LOL read any of my 5000+ blog posts and u can see the kind of research i do…when i see your disclaimer and your inability to tell us your compensation as SEC barred convicts even do, I smell a rat…it’s not emotion, it’s called experience…PennyStockChaser’s bank account was frozen and the husband and wife team are operating overseas and even they disclosed their compensation…my subscribers could care less about a wannabe promoter like you, I’ll track your articles just to help you become honest eventually…every promoter should be given a chance, even stubborn ones like you :)

  • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    Several comments from short-seller Timothy Sykes and myself have been deleted. Mr. Sykes is blacklisted from commenting here because he makes unsubstantiated accusations and does not disclose conflicts. You are welcome to read Mr. Sykes’ blog here: http://timothysykes.com but we won’t allow his kind of garbage on this site.

  • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    Several comments from short-seller Timothy Sykes and myself have been deleted. Mr. Sykes is blacklisted from commenting here because he makes unsubstantiated accusations and does not disclose conflicts. You are welcome to read Mr. Sykes’ blog here: http://timothysykes.com but we won’t allow his kind of garbage on this site.

  • http://twitter.com/MariaYing Maria Ying

    Dominic, I wish that there was an alternative to the newswires, but we’re not there yet.This won’t satisfy RegFD and get companies the distribution for their PR that they’re looking for, because very few people are actually seeing these tweets. On Yahoo Finance and Reuters.com, for example, the tweets are only accessible from sub-menus that few people visit. None of my colleagues with Bloomberg terminals know that tweets are available there. StockTwits also doesn’t provide enough exposure to be meaningful from a RegFD perspective. According to Quantcast, which directly measures StockTwits (http://www.quantcast.com/stocktwits.com), only 7,200 people visit StockTwits’ website per day. Since every site that displays tweets from StockTwits links back to it, the tiny traffic to StockTwits.com also suggests that not many people are seeing these tweets on other sites as well.BTW, love your blog.

    • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

      Hi Maria,

      Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I understand where you’re coming from but there are a few incorrect assumptions in your understanding.

      1.) There is little independent and verifiable evidence that investors read news releases on finance portals. In fact, when companies include publicly trackable links in their releases, few or none of the clicks occur on sites like Yahoo! Finance or the PR wires’ websites. The vast majority comes from company originated email blasts, followed by Twitter clients, Facebook, Twitter etc. You can proxy this yourself by looking at the social sharing on company news releases.

      StockTwits.com, while having a smaller audience (addressed below) actually is up there with Twitter and is better than the finance portals in click traffic. The fact is, the audience for company originated information outside of company channels is much smaller than most assume. This is logical as those interested in a company are likely to seek information directly from the company.

      In other words, there is a viable alternative to PR wires. It’s the company website, which already is the de facto recognized channel for companies in almost all cases.

      2.) You cannot measure StockTwits traffic based on visits to StockTwits.com. As you know, StockTwits, like Twitter, can be accessed via the Twitter website and a variety of clients, including StockTwits Desktop, Seesmic Desktop, the iPhone app, the Nasdaq.com app. Additionally, messages from StockTwits are widely disseminated on the web, as the story outlines.

      That said, StockTwits has a smaller audience than Twitter and other sites. But the efficacy is higher and, again, don’t assume that the audience for financial disclosures about particular companies is large. It’s not. That’s actually a much bigger issue, the lack of interest in the stock market amongst the general population.

  • http://twitter.com/Heuristocrat Kris Tuttle

    On a slightly different note….

    This is interesting to me because after a few years in the institutional business as an independent research shop using mostly institutional distribution platforms like CapitalIQ, FactSet and TheMarkets, we saw a big increase in our core clients shifting to the Internet for their research and financial information.  Of course when they are in the office I expect they are still using all their proprietary systems but my guess is that smartphones and tablets may have made them more interested in “what else is out there.”

    And there are good sources of information and analysis on the Internet for those that know how to manage it. General services like blogs & Twitter as well as specialized sites like Stocktwits and Seeking Alpha are “noisy” but there are many things there and they are complementary to what you see on institutional platforms.

    The profound difference of course is that these Internet-based content sources are also interactive. (for better or worse I suppose) In many cases though this interaction can be extremely valuable. This is true on individual blogs like Fred Wilson’s and aggregation sites like Seeking Alpha.

    The Internet is finally reshaping financial information flows and will ultimately impact the structure as well.  It’s a fascinating transformation that has taken a long time to get here.  As an ex-DoR of broker/dealers I’m eager to see more open solutions and a freer exchange of information and ideas along with much lower cost platforms.

    • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

      Kris,

      The interactive nature is indeed most valuable, especially when you have some way to verify identity or authority of participants, which in many cases you do in social media. It’s not perfect but it’s better than the chat forums of old.

      I’ve been surprised by how long it has taken for these technologies to be adopted in the securities and corporate disclosure markets. I guess it’s the one area where information doesn’t really want to be free and people want to guard their privileged access to it, either for reasons of profit or control.

      Gabe Riviera, founder of the popular Techmeme website, was once asked why there isn’t a Stockmeme. His answer was something along the lines of “because investors don’t like to share.” He had a point, and I wonder if that’s still true today.

       

  • Anonymous

    You have blogged positively about stocktwits many times before the above post and never disclosed you were being compensated or previously paid. Why do you change your policy now? 
    Did something recently change in the  ir/pr disclosure laws in the past few months?

    Very smart strategy to write positively about a community because community then tweets it out, at least that’s how I found you a few months ago.

    I really enjoy your writing and analysis.

    • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

      Actually I did disclose that I had consulted to StockTwits when I first agreed to help them with their IR plans. This was in May 2010 and for several subsequent articles that mentioned StockTwits, I included disclosure. See here: http://irwebreport.com/20100819/hp-cme-group-ford-adopt-stocktwits-as-an-official-ir-channel/

      However, after agreeing to help StockTwits and disclosing that I was advising them, it transpired that I was doing much less for them than I originally expected I would. After several months it seemed to me that what I was doing for StockTwits wasn’t materially different than the pro bono work I routinely do, except that unlike others they were serious about getting into the IR market and were willing to pay.  More important from my point of view, they weren’t benefiting from my advice because companies were not signing up in any material numbers to use StockTwits. At this point, I decided that I probably wasn’t going to bill StockTwits for the advice I had provided.

       The result was that I was now disclosing a relationship no different than any of the other informal relationships I have with all other vendors, from Thomson Reuters to Precision IR to Shareholder.com to anyone who reads my posts. I was disclosing a relationship for which I had not received payment and probably wasn’t going to because I didn’t want to since I didn’t see them benefiting from it. At this point, I decided that it was stupid to have disclosure when no money was going to change hands. 

      Fast forward to earlier this month. StockTwits has agreed to now pay me $4,500 for the advice I provided them over a 9-month period. I asked them to pay because 1) I need the money and 2) their product is now gaining traction and my ethical compass says it is right that they should now pay.  They have agreed and I am happy about that. They are a really upstanding and honest group of people who treat people fairly, which is more than I can say for most of the IR service providers I’ve dealt with over the years.

      So that explains why I might not have added a disclosure to certain posts were I may have mentioned StockTwits.  I will add though that anyone who thinks my loyalty can be bought at any price doesn’t know me. I am biased towards innovation and best practice and dead set against mediocrity in this business, and I always will be. No one with a crap product or service can buy my approval. Ever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Maria-Ying/100002509832387 Maria Ying

    Dominic, I left a detailed response to your reply demonstrating why neither StockTwits nor Twitter provide adequate distribution, but for some reason it wasn’t published. Is there a problem with your comment system, or did you choose to not publish it?

    • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

      Maria, No idea what happened to your comment. I don’t see anything from you other than the two comments you’ve already posted.

    • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

      Maria, I double checked the Disqus moderation, spam and trash queues as well. Nothing was flagged from you, so it doesn’t seem that whatever you posted was actually submitted.  Sorry, I don’t know what else I can do but suggest you try again. Hopefully you kept a copy :-(

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Maria-Ying/100002509832387 Maria Ying

        Dominic, thanks for checking. I re-wrote my comment  and resubmitted it :-(

  • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    This entire thing is complete rubbish. Give us some hard facts to back up your assertions and disclose who you really are so we all can understand what axe you trying to grind here because this is tripe.

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