• Anonymous

    What about posting in both formats, traditional PDF and enhanced page-turner version?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_76FSZ33MKGQTSCV7ZOJ5T5R7DY William Ashworth

    Domenic,

    Great post. I tend to write four stock analysis articles a week and I’m constantly running up against difficult IR. Another huge problem is getting 10-Ks from a company’s website. Often you have to click on the PDF, which then is downloaded to your computer, which you then have to click again to get to the report. Why don’t they all simply bring up the PDF on a browser page? I end up going to the SEC site to use their link to make it easier for my editors. It’s crazy.

    Will

  • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    @Avgoldberg You are better off just posting the PDF. Given how fundamental copy and paste is to users, you are likely to frustrate many people. These documents have absolutely no redeeming qualities in an IR setting.

  • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    @Will Agree, it’s a PITA.

  • http://profiles.google.com/rob.stangroom Rob Stangroom

    A few things about PDFs:
    - they can take ages to download in markets where Internet is backward – some Nigerian annual reports are + 75 megabytes
    - in some markets the creators of these documents are unaware of the settings that should be used ie to ensure that copying is enabled, that the document is not image based
    - the content is not searcheable when the document is sitting in the downloads section – http://www.ipaper.dk – all the content in iPapers is searcheable ( I am lead to believe) – I think that this is the reason for the success of our free annual reports portal http://www.africanfinancials.com where the +/- 3300 annual reports of listed companies are available online

    A few things about iPaper:-
    - the cost for some products is not that heavy EURO 450 for a single document set up and EURO 7 hosting fee per month and annual licence fee of 15%
    - there’s full analytics for each page, where the page was clicked, how many time and from where
    - its possible to solicit feedback direct to the hoster of the document from within each page, embed videos etc
    - you can have a setting that enables across many ipapers at once – a really useful tool for analysts to track the incidence of an event or topic over a time period eg over a few annual reports
    - there’s flipping imagery (a small page turning) that can be used to capture the attention of users
    - for a fee of a few hundred EURO, ONCE, you can download an offline version and put it on a USB or as many USBs as you wish and hand them out at analyst presentations etc.
    - there’s more but I will stop here

    The big downside the pain is that the search function in iPapers cannot highlight individual words only the general section in which those words appear

    My conclusion is do not write off ipapers completely – they may have a space – use them in conjunction with PDFs, always for the reasons that you mention Dominic. But even so dont assume that the PDF itself provides all the solutions – they dont unless the level of awareness by the preparer is high.

    • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

      You can try to justify your firm’s decision in any way you wish, point
      out all the fancy features until the cows come home, the fact is these
      documents do not support the most fundamental user activity, and because
      of that, they should be written off. Don’t waste one penny on them.
      There are free options that do support copy and paste. Use them. You
      might not be able to make money out of clueless corporates, but you will
      be doing the right thing by investors.

  • Anonymous

    That’s why we offer downloadable excel versions of almost all financial data on SCA’s corporate, and moreover downloadable png versions of charts to paste inside your presentations. Here comes an example (scroll down): http://bit.ly/icCESV

  • http://irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    I think you linked to the wrong page because that goes to another post on this site. But any text in an image is really just decoration and not something people can use. It doesn’t matter if you provide alternates, the point is the text in an image is designed to look like HTML, but isn’t so essentially they’re not getting what they think they’re getting. They learn this when they try to do that thing they do more often than anything else — copy.

    It’s great that you offer Excel, but what if the user doesn’t have Excel on their device? Is there HTML and/or PDF? There are simple options to render both without the user needing Excel or a PDF reader. Finally, how often will someone outside of your company do presentations about your company and need a png?

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  • Anonymous

    Nice article Dominic. Anyone who paid serious money so they could get their annual report / financials rendered LESS useable is a muppet. (And clearly they don’t get out and about across the internet and use other financial reports – or they would have realised how damn annoying all those flash/ipaper things are.)

    Can you believe that every single PDF copy of market announcements made to the Australian Stock Exchange, when viewed on their website, has the PDF permissions set to NOT allow copying?

    Fortunately the same announcements viewed online at 3rd party sites (like http://www.stocknessmonster.com) are plain vanilla PDf, you can copy and paste to your hearts content.

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