• Dave Hogan

    Part of the explanation for this problem is the lack of respect for the value of communications in many IR departments, which are top-heavy with people trained in finance and accounting. NIRI’s definition of IR clearly states that IR is a communications function, but this fact is lost of many of today’s IROs.

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  • http://www.q4websystems.com Darrell Heaps

    Very good point Dave. Here is NIRI’s definition:

    “Investor relations is a strategic management responsibility that integrates finance, communication, marketing and securities law compliance to enable the most effective two-way communication between a company, the financial community, and other constituencies, which ultimately contributes to a company’s securities achieving fair valuation. ”

    I’m not surprised by the findings in the post. The bulk of companies IR websites hosted by Thomson or Nasdaq don’t have any reference to social media. However, In terms of the non-adoption of social media by IR departments I think this is over reported. If you go hunting for companies not using, you can find lots. You go hunting for companies that are using, you can find lots.

    The reality is that many companies are using social media and many are sharing content relevant to investors – whether or not IROs are active inside of companies is secondary to the fact that investors are finding value in these channels. Take YouTube for example. If a company is using YouTube to post videos about their products and how they are used in the market (and these are posted by PR) and investors view them and get a better understanding of the company. Does it matter that the IRO isn’t the one posting? I would argue it doesn’t matter.

    Having said that, I do think that companies and IROs should have an integrated approach to the web because their stakeholders don’t care who is responsible for it internally, they just care about the information.

    In terms of IROs only caring about there large investors, I agree this is the case for many. However, evidence of the increasing use of financial blogs, Youtube and Linkedin (see Rivel’s latest research) is giving them more reasons why they need to include social media in their mix of communication.

    I can tell you from my own personal reality, the desire of IROs to learn more about how and why to use social media is at an all time high. And slowly, more and more are either integrating with their other departments (typical in larger companies) or taking it on themselves.

    Certainly still a long road ahead, but I’m a glass is half full kind of guy.

  • http://inboundmarketingpr.com Tom Allinder

    Dominic, you consistently provide great content and information here. Thank you for a great resource.

    As far as social media is concerned, I talk with lots of CEOs and management team members of mostly small public companies. The result is that most of them still do not “get” social media. They view it as a fad because they do not understand how the Internet has changed forever.

    In our business, we use social media as primarily a PR tool but it functions as an IR channel as well.

    Most companies have a website with an IR page on it but why not expand that presence to social media platforms? On Facebook there are over 500 million users which means about a third of Internet users globally are on Facebook. So if you have a company and you don’t have a presence on Facebook you are missing out on a huge potential audience. Twitter, LinkedIn are very important as well…

    Social Media is a way for companies to communicate with people instead of communicating at them. It is a way for companies to expand their presence.

  • http://www.brandremedy.com Pete Meadows

    Hi Dominic (and others!),

    I’m wondering how IR and corp comms departments in the UK might deal with communications via social media streams from a legal standpoint.

    For example, it has become commonplace for certain companies to put disclaimers in front of any IR related content, warning off any would-be visitors from the US due to regulations imposed by the SEC.

    How are these companies meant to treat communications via other channels, such as Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn when they could, unknowingly, be pushing sensitive data out to a US audience?

    Pete

    • http://www.irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

      Pete, In most cases, social media updates will simply link back to the site (and requisite disclaimer). However, lawyers who think they are dotting Is and crossing Ts with their lame disclaimers are sorely misled or deliberately ignorant.

      There are technical ways to block specific countries that are much more effective, but companies and their lawyers don’t pursue them because they don’t really want to block investors in certain countries. It’s all a sham.

      More important, how does someone buy securities in a country where the securities are not available? If they want to go offshore to buy them, that’s their choice.

      Lawyers get paid far too much to act so stupid.

  • http://www.rivel.com Brian Rivel

    Dominic – the main reason you don’t see links to Facebook and Twitter on IR websites is that the investment community does not use these tools for communications with public companies. This came through loud and clear in our most recent published study on the topic. I am guessing until you see greater adoption of these media by the investment community, this will continue to be the case. Only 3% of the investment community uses Twitter and only 2% uses Facebook for their work. Not a compelling case to focus on these channels.

    Brian

  • http://www.irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    Hi Brian,

    Your survey results suggest lower institutional interest and use than others do, but you’re right that corporate social media isn’t widely used by pros for investment purposes.

    However, it’s a classic chicken-egg scenario. Why would pro investors use corporate social media for investment information when IR departments are not?

    It’s also a mistake to focus only on analysts and fund managers. IROs who ignore social media because they only want to communicate with professionals are:

    1.) Ignoring a massive audience of potential new investors, and therefore failing all current shareholders by not marketing their companies effectively;

    2.) Ignoring the cost savings and improved ROI that can be achieved by using social media to increase firm visibility and reduce the need for repetitive, reactionary activities e.g. phone calls asking the same questions;

    3.) Practicing IR in an elitist manner that runs counter to the regulatory framework and which ultimately is alienating an entire generation of investors;

    4.) Not doing their jobs properly.

    How anyone in IR can ignore social media and still be employed is something I do not understand. The job is to market the company as an investment. You can’t do that properly today and ignore social media.

  • http://www.tvipacific.com Rhonda Bennetto

    Hi Dominic & Brian

    I’ve seen the Rivel report and don’t dispute the numbers. In fact I find them to be something of a challenge (a personal challenge and one I put out to other IRO’s). I agree with Dominic – I wish I could go up one post and “bold” his responses 1-4 because they’re dead right. Pro investors can’t use SocMEd tools because they are not available – don’t blame the pro investor for not engaging.

    IRO’s need to take the lead by making the tools available, then educate the investing public (pro and non) where to find them and how to use them. If we build it, they will come – it is our job to direct investors to our information by any means possible to give our companies the chance to be fairly valued (by any type of investor, pro or not). If we consistently supply accurate, timely, helpful information, all the time, through various channels, pro investors will come to realize its their best source of accurate information (prepared in a form they can easily adopt).

    You CAN lead a horse to water – just make sure your trough is full when they get there and provide several ways to drink in the value.

    Rhonda

  • http://www.q4websystems.com Darrell Heaps

    @Brian

    It is true that institutional investors are not using Facebook and Twitter in large numbers (what I define as social networking), however they are using social media (blogs, youtube, etc).

    If I understand your latest report, the key stat that I was interested in was that 49% of the investment community use blogs, 33% use them weekly. If you look at the people writing these blogs, the majority use social media (89% blogs, 65% social networking). It’s important for companies to understand the “food chain” of how the coverage in blogs is published online. Companies that use social media are more easily discoverable by these users and have a greater ability to influence downstream publishing in blogs.

    Also, I believe your study also stated that 27% of these investors use YouTube? A compelling reason why companies should be publishing their videos on YouTube is so investors find their content and also so that bloggers can find and embed this content in their posts (that investors then read/watch).

    IMHO The reality today is that if an investor is using the web for any part of their research then they are consuming content via social media, either directly or second hand.

    (on another note, your study also found LinkedIn use with institutional investors was at 30%. this channel is evolving quickly, but perhaps LinkedIn is the investor’s Facebook? If so, companies need to be rethinking LinkedIn.)

    Cheers,

    Darrell

  • http://www.irwebreport.com Dominic Jones

    What Darrell says is true, there is less and less of a boundary between social media and mainstream media. While investors use blogs and social video, they often don’t think of them as social media. They’re just content.

    The point is 90% of IR websites ignore these channels, be they Twitter, blogs or YouTube. Our survey defined social media broadly.

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